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		<title>Comment on Ritwik Ghatak&#8217;s Komal Gandhar by KOMAL GANDHAR &#171; Palashbiswaskl&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>KOMAL GANDHAR &#171; Palashbiswaskl&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on The West: End of Living and the Beginning of Survival by Nicole Lampe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole Lampe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to let Seatle and his people still live in many hearts.

The people will never die.</description>
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<p>The people will never die.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The West: End of Living and the Beginning of Survival by modestypress</title>
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		<dc:creator>modestypress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some myths are thousands of years old. Some are a hundred years old. Some are created yesterday. Myths are like wine. It takes the right amount of age for them to become true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some myths are thousands of years old. Some are a hundred years old. Some are created yesterday. Myths are like wine. It takes the right amount of age for them to become true.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Asides by raja alam</title>
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		<dc:creator>raja alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ei j moshai, aar kichu likhchhen na kno? refreshers course to ses hoe glo?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Ritwik Ghatak&#8217;s Komal Gandhar by raja alam</title>
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		<dc:creator>raja alam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>collective unconscious taa aar ektu bhalobhabe byakhya korbe please.

&lt;strong&gt;Anindya Sengupta:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Ei rey! Je jinishta bishash korina seta niye boltey parina bhai! Eta dekhtey paro&lt;/em&gt;: http://aras.org/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>collective unconscious taa aar ektu bhalobhabe byakhya korbe please.</p>
<p><strong>Anindya Sengupta:</strong> <em>Ei rey! Je jinishta bishash korina seta niye boltey parina bhai! Eta dekhtey paro</em>: <a href="http://aras.org/" rel="nofollow">http://aras.org/</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ritwik Ghatak&#8217;s Komal Gandhar by PRAJJAL DE</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRAJJAL DE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK THANX DEKHE NEBO</description>
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		<title>Comment on Ritwik Ghatak&#8217;s Komal Gandhar by Prajjal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prajjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; A separate post would be necessary to elaborate how Ghatak’s films are exemplary instances of a discursive use of landscapes.&quot;
ei separate post ta semester er aage ele valo hoy..pls anindya da ektu taratari.......
by the way atleast ro duto post on Meghe Dhakha Tara &amp; Subarnorekha ta necessary..
tumi ekta jaygay trilogy kothata use korecho....ota ki ei 3te film ke nie?
By the way D ke reply te &quot;collective unconscious&quot; ahistorical keno bolcho? eta ki ei jonno je within a same given situation experience of different individual is different? kintu ekdik theke vebe dekhle dekhbe hoyto kono ekta jaygay ek...atleast amar tai mone hoy.(jadio to be very clear ami eta {mane &quot;collective unconscious&quot; } somporke khub details janina)

&lt;strong&gt;Anindya Sengupta:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;This is from the readily available wikipedia&lt;/em&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;Jung&#039;s primary disagreement with Freud stemmed from their differing concepts of the unconscious. Jung saw Freud&#039;s theory of the unconscious as incomplete and unnecessarily negative. According to Jung (though not according to Freud), Freud conceived the unconscious solely as a repository of repressed emotions and desires. Jung agreed with Freud&#039;s model of the unconscious, what Jung called the &#039;personal unconscious,&#039; but he also proposed the existence of a second, far deeper form of the unconscious underlying the personal one. This was the collective unconscious, where the archetypes themselves resided, represented in mythology by a lake, or body of water, and in some cases a jug or other container. Freud had actually mentioned a collective level of psychic functioning but saw it primarily as an appendix to the rest of the psyche.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Archetypes residing in the unconscious, as if in an archive, where its primary meanings are preserved, and it persists for ages; that means the significance of the icon escapes changes through ages...that&#039;s ahistorical. And it might trigger the concept of a essentially pure unsullied set of images/concepts, harking back to roots...this might invariably lead to fascism, of purity of racial imagination etc.

But one can show, in an analysis of Meghe Dhaka Tara especially, that Ghatak is talking of historicity of those images and how these images are often rooted in retrogressive dominant ideologies.

Trilogy abar onyo ki hobey oi tintey chhobi chhara? Ar ami ekhon ja goddamn klanto refresher course-er kaj kortey giye je likhtey parbo na bhai! Meghe Dhaka Tara niye likhechhilam JMI, &#039;Encountering Theory&#039; issue-tay. Dekhe niyo.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; A separate post would be necessary to elaborate how Ghatak’s films are exemplary instances of a discursive use of landscapes.&#8221;<br />
ei separate post ta semester er aage ele valo hoy..pls anindya da ektu taratari&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
by the way atleast ro duto post on Meghe Dhakha Tara &amp; Subarnorekha ta necessary..<br />
tumi ekta jaygay trilogy kothata use korecho&#8230;.ota ki ei 3te film ke nie?<br />
By the way D ke reply te &#8220;collective unconscious&#8221; ahistorical keno bolcho? eta ki ei jonno je within a same given situation experience of different individual is different? kintu ekdik theke vebe dekhle dekhbe hoyto kono ekta jaygay ek&#8230;atleast amar tai mone hoy.(jadio to be very clear ami eta {mane &#8220;collective unconscious&#8221; } somporke khub details janina)</p>
<p><strong>Anindya Sengupta:</strong> <em>This is from the readily available wikipedia</em></p>
<blockquote><p>Jung&#8217;s primary disagreement with Freud stemmed from their differing concepts of the unconscious. Jung saw Freud&#8217;s theory of the unconscious as incomplete and unnecessarily negative. According to Jung (though not according to Freud), Freud conceived the unconscious solely as a repository of repressed emotions and desires. Jung agreed with Freud&#8217;s model of the unconscious, what Jung called the &#8216;personal unconscious,&#8217; but he also proposed the existence of a second, far deeper form of the unconscious underlying the personal one. This was the collective unconscious, where the archetypes themselves resided, represented in mythology by a lake, or body of water, and in some cases a jug or other container. Freud had actually mentioned a collective level of psychic functioning but saw it primarily as an appendix to the rest of the psyche.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Archetypes residing in the unconscious, as if in an archive, where its primary meanings are preserved, and it persists for ages; that means the significance of the icon escapes changes through ages&#8230;that&#8217;s ahistorical. And it might trigger the concept of a essentially pure unsullied set of images/concepts, harking back to roots&#8230;this might invariably lead to fascism, of purity of racial imagination etc.</p>
<p>But one can show, in an analysis of Meghe Dhaka Tara especially, that Ghatak is talking of historicity of those images and how these images are often rooted in retrogressive dominant ideologies.</p>
<p>Trilogy abar onyo ki hobey oi tintey chhobi chhara? Ar ami ekhon ja goddamn klanto refresher course-er kaj kortey giye je likhtey parbo na bhai! Meghe Dhaka Tara niye likhechhilam JMI, &#8216;Encountering Theory&#8217; issue-tay. Dekhe niyo.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ritwik Ghatak&#8217;s Komal Gandhar by D</title>
		<link>http://thinkingscreens.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/komal-gandhar/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ekmot. 

Asole ki jano kono ek-dui totwer haat dhore obhibyektike bujhte giye seshe onubhutirtari sorolikoron kore fheli kokhono kokhono.sei beltola jaowar purono obhyash ityadi.... :)

&lt;strong&gt;Anindya Sengupta:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;Arey na! Tumi bhul kothay bolley! Obhabei to portey shikhechhi. Ar amader oi beltola chhara jawar jayga ar kothay? Kolkatay prem korar jaygao to ar nei...sab-i mall-omoy&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ekmot. </p>
<p>Asole ki jano kono ek-dui totwer haat dhore obhibyektike bujhte giye seshe onubhutirtari sorolikoron kore fheli kokhono kokhono.sei beltola jaowar purono obhyash ityadi&#8230;. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Anindya Sengupta:</strong> <em>Arey na! Tumi bhul kothay bolley! Obhabei to portey shikhechhi. Ar amader oi beltola chhara jawar jayga ar kothay? Kolkatay prem korar jaygao to ar nei&#8230;sab-i mall-omoy</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ritwik Ghatak&#8217;s Komal Gandhar by D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chomotkar hoyechhe!

Ekta byapar,amar mone hoyechhe unfigured memory-spacegulir modhye barongbar prefigured (but irreducibly lost to time)somosti&#039;r nosto swopner brihot-brihot chhaya-abchhaya ghorafhera kore. Kurseong&#039;r pothe Lalgola&#039;y Bhrrigu ar Anasua jokhon rail-line&#039;r sesh dekchhe, oshpostho kulorekhar paashe Anasua&#039;r sonkoter muhurte &quot;Dohai Ali&quot; rob, tokhon Bijon Bhattacharya (choritrotir naam bhule giyechi) arekjonke niye oikantik bhaatiyali gaichhen, nodir opor majhira somobeto saari-gaan gaichhen-- somostota moner kothay jeno ekta khocha dey (Bangali oppekha keu ei khochata kotota bujhte parbe sei niye ami khub sondihan).

kotota thik jani na, Ghotubabu ek somoy Jung&#039;r &quot;collective unconscious&quot; niye besh ghaata-ghaati korten bole sunechhi... eikhaner ki setari protifholon ghotechhe?

&lt;strong&gt;Anindya Sengupta&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;em&gt; Oi jaygata khub jotil, anekkichur bunot. Ghatak nijei Jung-er katha bolechhen, kintu ami sei byaparti niye ektu aswostitey thaki. Uni hoyto classical marxism-er gheratop thekey berotey chaichhilen...kintu Jung-er &#039;collective unconscious&#039;-er modhye ekdharoner ahistorical tan achhe - ekti murtir itihash-byapto ekroikhik connotation-er ingitey - iconguli, chetona ki itihasher madhyomey paltay na? Ei Jungiyo byakkhar madhyomey Ghataker ekta cult-mystification hoyechhe jeta poshay na; amar mone hoy Jungiyo anawrota fascism-er dikey niye jetey parey. Amar mone hoy Ghatak-er kaj thik ulto kathatai boley. Kothin jinish! Parley alochona korbokhon.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chomotkar hoyechhe!</p>
<p>Ekta byapar,amar mone hoyechhe unfigured memory-spacegulir modhye barongbar prefigured (but irreducibly lost to time)somosti&#8217;r nosto swopner brihot-brihot chhaya-abchhaya ghorafhera kore. Kurseong&#8217;r pothe Lalgola&#8217;y Bhrrigu ar Anasua jokhon rail-line&#8217;r sesh dekchhe, oshpostho kulorekhar paashe Anasua&#8217;r sonkoter muhurte &#8220;Dohai Ali&#8221; rob, tokhon Bijon Bhattacharya (choritrotir naam bhule giyechi) arekjonke niye oikantik bhaatiyali gaichhen, nodir opor majhira somobeto saari-gaan gaichhen&#8211; somostota moner kothay jeno ekta khocha dey (Bangali oppekha keu ei khochata kotota bujhte parbe sei niye ami khub sondihan).</p>
<p>kotota thik jani na, Ghotubabu ek somoy Jung&#8217;r &#8220;collective unconscious&#8221; niye besh ghaata-ghaati korten bole sunechhi&#8230; eikhaner ki setari protifholon ghotechhe?</p>
<p><strong>Anindya Sengupta</strong>:<em> Oi jaygata khub jotil, anekkichur bunot. Ghatak nijei Jung-er katha bolechhen, kintu ami sei byaparti niye ektu aswostitey thaki. Uni hoyto classical marxism-er gheratop thekey berotey chaichhilen&#8230;kintu Jung-er &#8216;collective unconscious&#8217;-er modhye ekdharoner ahistorical tan achhe &#8211; ekti murtir itihash-byapto ekroikhik connotation-er ingitey &#8211; iconguli, chetona ki itihasher madhyomey paltay na? Ei Jungiyo byakkhar madhyomey Ghataker ekta cult-mystification hoyechhe jeta poshay na; amar mone hoy Jungiyo anawrota fascism-er dikey niye jetey parey. Amar mone hoy Ghatak-er kaj thik ulto kathatai boley. Kothin jinish! Parley alochona korbokhon.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ritwik Ghatak&#8217;s Komal Gandhar by sambit</title>
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		<dc:creator>sambit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>clarity, finesse and intense insight. immensely inspiring. 
thank you Anindya da.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clarity, finesse and intense insight. immensely inspiring.<br />
thank you Anindya da.</p>
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